My torrent-over-VPN use case is when I'm at an airport waiting for a flight. There's a website that gives magnet links for episodes of TV shows you set in a list. For whatever reasons, torrents don't work on the wifi at some of the airports I frequent. So, to get a few episodes of shows to watch while on the plane, I use a VPN to get around whatever's blocking the torrents. In this situation, I'm just a temporary device in a very public area, so I'm not too concerned about what information ends up at the torrent tracker.
The only stuff I pirated it's some old episodes from Northern Exposure
and The Twilight Zone collection from the 50's. The last one should have been under public domain long ago. 70 years of Copyright it's abusive.
I get a letter on xfinity anytime I torrent w/o a VPN. Standard issue.
What's the gist of it? Is it just from them or do they say they were notified by so and so? Can you test torrenting an Ubuntu ISO or something? :)
I know I'm not the person you were replying to, but yes, I've gotten
an email from my ISP for something they saw being transferred over
BitTorrent, and it said people could take legal action.
Very interesting. Do they threaten to discontinue service or is it just a "hey, just so you know..." type of thing? And, is that ISP your only option for internet service where you are?
I've heard some services are able to detect whether you're using a VPN
and still deny access based on that.
They most certainly can. But I would very much suggest anyone to leave an ISP that does such things :).
In my area, or at least the location of my house, that is not an option, assuming one wants broadband/cable internet access. Yes, that's right, there are still plenty of monopolies allowed to do business. My ISP (a major/nationwide one) is one of them.
yeah.. it's fairly easy to see when a connection is coming from a datacenter. i'm 13 hops from google at home and 6 from my VPS for example.. and being netflix they would probably just know who owns each of the routers.. so they don't even necessarily need an ip list.
Xfinity (attempts to) snoops so badly that they send a letter with the title of what you downloaded! Something to the effect of (from memory):
There's legitimate purposes for torrent clients. The ISP can see what you're downloading and determine if it's a linux distro or a movie
arent vpns usually much much slower, though?
i wouldnt want to stream movies on a vpn.
That's cool... since I have a seedbox anyway, I'd still just use that and then sftp the file to my local. That said, I do tend to just VPN to home over wireguard, though may switch to tailscale for convenience... I do this more for my pihole on my phone than for things like torrents though. Since that tends to be over https/sftp for me.
The IP protection companies hired to track torrents will generally track magnet links and the torrent hosts themselves for feeds concerning things named with their IP. So they won't be tracking an Ubuntu ISO, unless that ubuntu iso is via a link named "Captain.Marvel.2019..." or similar.
Private trackers provide some protection, but the people working for this groups will also infiltrate private tracker networks.
Tracker1 wrote to Gamgee <=-
In my area, or at least the location of my house, that is not an option, assuming one wants broadband/cable internet access. Yes, that's right, there are still plenty of monopolies allowed to do business. My ISP (a major/nationwide one) is one of them.
If you have good cellular signal, that can be a decent
alternative... slightly higher pings and lower throughput than
wired options, but still relatively decent and well-priced.
Xfinity (attempts to) snoops so badly that they send a letter with th title of what you downloaded! Something to the effect of (from memory
That's not Xfinity, it's because that's what the DMCA notice they
recieved says you are/were downloading. The ISP receives a DMCA notice from the agency representing the copyright holder. What happens from there will vary slightly, but in the US at least they are required by
law to notify you, and if you don't stop seeding/feeding/uploading, or send an otherwise legal atestation that it isn't a fact, they are
required to cut you aff.
Tracker1 wrote to Gamgee <=-
If you have good cellular signal, that can be a decent
alternative... slightly higher pings and lower throughput than
wired options, but still relatively decent and well-priced.
What?? LOL
So....... I should use my phone as a "hot spot" to provide internet
access for watching TV / streaming NetFlix / internet access for at
least a dozen devices in the house, including my BBS?
What if I'm not home (and my cellphone is with me). How do things work then?
If you have good cellular signal, that can be a decent
alternative... slightly higher pings and lower throughput than
wired options, but still relatively decent and well-priced.
What?? LOL
So....... I should use my phone as a "hot spot" to provide internet access for watching TV / streaming NetFlix / internet access for at
least a dozen devices in the house, including my BBS?
What if I'm not home (and my cellphone is with me). How do things work then?
Come on man.
If you have good cellular signal, that can be a decent
alternative... slightly higher pings and lower throughput than
So....... I should use my phone as a "hot spot" to provide internet access for watching TV / streaming NetFlix / internet access for at least a dozen devices in the house, including my BBS?
Come on man.I think there are some home internet services that use a cellular connection..? It's not always a phone using a cellular data connection.
Re: Re: Which VPN?
By: Gamgee to Tracker1 on Sun Jul 09 2023 18:33:00
Tracker1 wrote to Gamgee <=-
If you have good cellular signal, that can be a decent alternative... slightly higher pings and lower throughput than
wired options, but still relatively decent and well-priced.
What?? LOL
So....... I should use my phone as a "hot spot" to provide internet access for watching TV / streaming NetFlix / internet access for at
least a dozen devices in the house, including my BBS?
What if I'm not home (and my cellphone is with me). How do things work then?
In some areas both Verizon and T-mobile offer what they call fixed wireless This is a router that has a couple of switch ports and wireless for your ins These kinds of connections may or may not allow you to run servers so runnin
Re: Re: Which VPN?
By: Gamgee to Tracker1 on Sun Jul 09 2023 06:33 pm
If you have good cellular signal, that can be a decent
alternative... slightly higher pings and lower throughput than
wired options, but still relatively decent and well-priced.
What?? LOL
So....... I should use my phone as a "hot spot" to provide internet access for watching TV / streaming NetFlix / internet access for at least a dozen devices in the house, including my BBS?
What if I'm not home (and my cellphone is with me). How do things work then?
Come on man.
I think there are some home internet services that use a cellular connection
Nightfox
Khronos wrote to Gamgee <=-
Tracker1 wrote to Gamgee <=-
If you have good cellular signal, that can be a decent
alternative... slightly higher pings and lower throughput than
wired options, but still relatively decent and well-priced.
What?? LOL
So....... I should use my phone as a "hot spot" to provide internet
access for watching TV / streaming NetFlix / internet access for at
least a dozen devices in the house, including my BBS?
What if I'm not home (and my cellphone is with me). How do things work then?
In some areas both Verizon and T-mobile offer what they call
fixed wireless service. This is a router that has a couple of
switch ports and wireless for your inside of your home network on
one side and cellular as the wan. These kinds of connections may
or may not allow you to run servers so running your bbs as an
inbound server may not be possible with out routing it through
some special vpn first.
Nightfox wrote to Gamgee <=-
If you have good cellular signal, that can be a decent
alternative... slightly higher pings and lower throughput than
wired options, but still relatively decent and well-priced.
What?? LOL
So....... I should use my phone as a "hot spot" to provide internet
access for watching TV / streaming NetFlix / internet access for at
least a dozen devices in the house, including my BBS?
What if I'm not home (and my cellphone is with me). How do things work then?
Come on man.
I think there are some home internet services that use a cellular connection..? It's not always a phone using a cellular data
connection.
Ah; thanks for the distinction - Xfinity is the person I get the letters fro tho... I know that bit.
Ahhh, OK. Didn't know about that. Sounds like a significant cost, for likely crappy performance, and not being able to use the custom router
that I'm using now. Not even a remote chance of such a thing happening.
Re: Re: Which VPN?
By: Tracker1 to Phigan on Sun Jul 09 2023 02:11 pm
The IP protection companies hired to track torrents will generally
track magnet links and the torrent hosts themselves for feeds
concerning things named with their IP. So they won't be tracking an
Ubuntu ISO, unless that ubuntu iso is via a link named
"Captain.Marvel.2019..." or similar.
dude, i got a letter for downloading a torrent of the wow client.
and i'm like they give that shit away for free. i just wanted to get it faster without going through all the updates.
If you have good cellular signal, that can be a decent
alternative... slightly higher pings and lower throughput than
wired options, but still relatively decent and well-priced.
What?? LOL
So....... I should use my phone as a "hot spot" to provide internet access for watching TV / streaming NetFlix / internet access for at
least a dozen devices in the house, including my BBS?
What if I'm not home (and my cellphone is with me). How do things work then?
Come on man.
Ahhh, OK. Didn't know about that. Sounds like a significant cost, for likely crappy performance, and not being able to use the custom router that I'm using now. Not even a remote chance of such a thing happening.
dude, i got a letter for downloading a torrent of the wow client.
and i'm like they give that shit away for free. i just wanted to get it faster without going through all the updates.
That's because Activision/Blizzard sucks...
Re: Which VPN?From a network administration perspective, bittorrent is evil incarnate. A bittorrent client generates multiple connections which take a lot of bandwidth.That is a higher strain for networking equipment than just downloading a file
By: Moondog to Phigan on Tue Jul 04 2023 10:36 am
They want your money, however they want manage their own network without government intervention. In order to keep autonomy, they must demonstrat > > to regulatory agencies they are self policing.
Sure, I get all that, but I still haven't seen it happen. Plus, there is ple > getting a notification from a lawyer first?
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Personally, I recommend against using torrents at all. All the stuff is on uTorrent over I2P works fine.
Re: Re: Which VPN?What I have heard is copyright holders hire agents to pester torrent swarms andcover for movies which they deem worth protecting (which I guess are the recentones). These agents locate torrent swarms for those movies, join as a regular
By: paulie420 to Phigan on Wed Jul 05 2023 08:55 pm
I get a letter on xfinity anytime I torrent w/o a VPN. Standard issue.
What's the gist of it? Is it just from them or do they say they were notifie >
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There's legitimate purposes for torrent clients. The ISP can see what you'r > downloading and determine if it's a linux distro or a movie
arent vpns usually much much slower, though?
i wouldnt want to stream movies on a vpn.
Xfinity (attempts to) snoops so badly that they send a letter with t > Ph> > of what you downloaded! Something to the effect of (from memory):
Woooow, that really sucks. I'm pretty glad there is usenet :).
I mean... nothing that a VPN or proxy doesn't quash easily. Then, with all t >
Hell, throw everything behind Tails or TOR if yer really paranoid and be don >
I've created a separate torrent machine that only does that. I can text mess > older.
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Tracker1 wrote to Gamgee <=-
In my area, or at least the location of my house, that is not an option > Ga> assuming one wants broadband/cable internet access. Yes, that's right,
there are still plenty of monopolies allowed to do business. My ISP (a major/nationwide one) is one of them.
If you have good cellular signal, that can be a decent
alternative... slightly higher pings and lower throughput than
wired options, but still relatively decent and well-priced.
What?? LOL
So....... I should use my phone as a "hot spot" to provide internet
access for watching TV / streaming NetFlix / internet access for at
least a dozen devices in the house, including my BBS?
What if I'm not home (and my cellphone is with me). How do things work then?
Come on man.
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Ahhh, OK. Didn't know about that. Sounds like a significant cost, for likely crappy performance, and not being able to use the custom router
that I'm using now. Not even a remote chance of such a thing happening.
From a network administration perspective, bittorrent is evil incarnate. A bittorrent client generates multiple connections which take a lot of bandwidth.That is a higher strain for networking equipment than just downloading a file
from a website. I have seen bittorent clients bring down LAN segments because they overloaded the QoS queues of their upstream router.
ISP hate torrent because ISP oversell more bandwidth than they have and a smallammount of torrenters places a lot of stress on them.
From a network administration perspective, bittorrent is evil incarnate. A bittorrent client generates multiple connections which take a lot of bandwidth.That is a higher strain for networking equipment than just downloading a file
from a website. I have seen bittorent clients bring down LAN segments because they overloaded the QoS queues of their upstream router.
ISP hate torrent because ISP oversell more bandwidth than they have and a smallammount of torrenters places a lot of stress on them.
And they don t care if you are sued or whatever because most likely you are going to have to hire an ISP anyway.
ISP hate torrent because ISP oversell more bandwidth than they have
and a smallammount of torrenters places a lot of stress on them.
everyone streams nowadays. i'm sure if they have concerns they are more worried about that.
Re: Re: Which VPN?
By: Gamgee to Khronos on Mon Jul 10 2023 08:22 pm
Ahhh, OK. Didn't know about that. Sounds like a significant cost, for likely crappy performance, and not being able to use the custom router that I'm using now. Not even a remote chance of such a thing happening.
People who use this things usually do for one of the following reasons:
* They live in an isolated area where no ISP will ever bring cabling.
* They want a router they can carry arround so they can build a mini LAN aro cable.
People like me are the primary audience for the first type. I am lucky becau there is a Wimax provider. Wimax subscriptions are much slower but their quality of service is very steady.
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Re: Which VPN?
By: MRO to Arelor on Thu Jul 13 2023 05:08 pm
ISP hate torrent because ISP oversell more bandwidth than they have
and a smallammount of torrenters places a lot of stress on them.
everyone streams nowadays. i'm sure if they have concerns they are more worried about that.
How is that realted to BitTorrent use?
ISP hate torrent because ISP oversell more bandwidth than they have
and a smallammount of torrenters places a lot of stress on them.
but that isn't BitTorrent's only use. A
lot of Linux distros are offered for download via BitTorrent.
HusTler wrote to All <=-
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Hi all. Which VPN service do you use?
of
the township border. I'm hoping my township follows through and applies for the grant money to run fiber. My neighbor down the road tried out a T-mobile 5g gateway, and they couldn't get a solid enough signal.
When it comes to downloading, I use IRC (just take a look at Wikipedia's XDCC article). Low retention, but you can request stuff and usually get awesome download speeds. Remember: copying is not stealing :)
From a network administration perspective, bittorrent is evil incarnate. A bittorrent client generates multiple connections which take a lot of bandwidth.That is a higher strain for networking equipment than just
Personally, I recommend against using torrents at all. All the stuff is oTorrent over I2P works fine.
What I have heard is copyright holders hire agents to pester torrent swarms andcover for movies which they deem worth protecting (which I guess are the recentones). These agents locate torrent swarms for those movies, join as a regular
downloader, notice which peers are members of the swarm and then register whichones can be threatened.
well your network administrator needs to go take some classes.
that should not happen. and the default settings of torrent clients wont re >
Isn't part of the point of BitTorrent to help you get the most speed by conn >
ISP hate torrent because ISP oversell more bandwidth than they have and > Ar> smallammount of torrenters places a lot of stress on them.
I haven't heard this, but I'd think that rather than ISPs complaining about >
And they don t care if you are sued or whatever because most likely you > Ar> are going to have to hire an ISP anyway.
What do you mean by "hire" here?
likely you are going to have to hire an ISP anyway.
What do you mean by "hire" here?
Hiring an ISP here would mean getting an Internet Subscription.
Ah. Generally I don't hear people say they "hire" an ISP.
From a network administration perspective, bittorrent is evil incarnate. A bittorrent client generates multiple connections which take a lot of bandwidth.That is a higher strain for networking equipment than just downloading a file
More than the bulk of people using Netflix or YouTube? I mean, yeah it's as > . Torrents are a bit more bursty, but that can be throttled via QOS. Not t >
A Bittorrent client tends to generate a connection to every peer it can find, and generates periodic broadcast traffic. Those are lots of intermitent connections that come and go. A stream from Netflix that uses
My home uplink is quite limited and the difference shows. Youtubing max speed generates less impact on the rest of the LAN users than torrenting. None of them maks the network unusable for the other users, but you do notice when somebody is trying to torrent anything.
that's probably because of the outgoing connections. and your connection and network probably sucks.
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Re: Which VPN?
By: Phigan to Hustler on Mon Jul 03 2023 08:44 am
- Using torrents or similar file-sharing type services on a network tha blocks them (public hotspots sometimes) or simply from a network other
When you use those VPN services, they know what your originating IP is, what your destination IP is, and what kind of traffic you're sending to that destination. It's the same stuff that your ISP would know if you weren't using the VPN. I'm not sure what difference it makes which one them has that information. You're already paying your ISP, so unless yo have some reason not to trust them, why would you go trust some other rando any more than them?
If you do any torrenting, some ISPs actively monitor torrent activity, where ISP with that information..
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