All of that is true. IIRC, the Brits cannot own much that isn't considered a hunting arm. When I hear someone who is not 2A going on about how we shouldn't have guns that carry X or more bullets, I think of the Brits and believe I would rather have what we have than that.

In the grand scheme of things the difference between a hunting rifle
and an assault rifle is the not in the firearm itself, but the
intentions of the person aiming and pulling the trigger.

Indeed. As you may have heard, lacking a gun, someone went on a stabbing rampage in NZ. They are now apparently looking into banning the sale of assault knives.



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Re: Re: Breaking News
By: Dumas Walker to Moondog on Fri Sep 17 2021 09:12 am

All of that is true. IIRC, the Brits cannot own much that isn't consider a hunting arm. When I hear someone who is not 2A going on about how we shouldn't have guns that carry X or more bullets, I think of the Brits an believe I would rather have what we have than that.

In the grand scheme of things the difference between a hunting rifle and an assault rifle is the not in the firearm itself, but the intentions of the person aiming and pulling the trigger.

Indeed. As you may have heard, lacking a gun, someone went on a stabbing rampage in NZ. They are now apparently looking into banning the sale of assault knives.

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Wait until they bring forth a ban against assault stones. Completely different from stone stones.

I am sure criminals are scared because they have not started about banning assault sticks yet.

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Re: Re: Breaking News
By: Arelor to Dumas Walker on Fri Sep 17 2021 06:03 pm

Re: Re: Breaking News

Wait until they bring forth a ban against assault stones. Completely differe from stone stones.

I am sure criminals are scared because they have not started about banning assault sticks yet.

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I don't know what it would take to eliminate the roots of violent behavior, however I feel eventually we can teach others that blaming knives, sticks or other items for the acts committed by the person using them is ridiculous. Some of the most effective martial arts based on unarmed fighting originated because knives and other items were banned.

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Re: Re: Breaking News
By: Moondog to Arelor on Sat Sep 18 2021 09:55 am

Re: Re: Breaking News
By: Arelor to Dumas Walker on Fri Sep 17 2021 06:03 pm

Re: Re: Breaking News

Wait until they bring forth a ban against assault stones. Completely differe from stone stone

I am sure criminals are scared because they have not started about banning assault sticks yet

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I don't know what it would take to eliminate the roots of violent behavior, however I feel
eventually we can teach others that blaming knives, sticks or other items for the acts committed
the person using them is ridiculous. Some of the most effective martial arts based on unarmed
fighting originated because knives and other items were banned.

There is a film in which some authoritarian regime tries to elimitate violent behavior with drugs
and mind control techniques. Most of the population dies and the rest turns into violent psycopaths
who start killing everybody.

My experience is that you never convince people. The way to push change in the eyes of the public
is to bring people into minoritary hobbies (such as target shooting or knife collection) until
there is enough people in it, with stakes in it, that it becomes resistent to political tampering.

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Wait until they bring forth a ban against assault stones. Completely different
from stone stones.

I am sure criminals are scared because they have not started about banning assault sticks yet.

Or assault minivans and SUVs.


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Re: Re: Breaking News
By: Arelor to Moondog on Sat Sep 18 2021 02:01 pm

Re: Re: Breaking News

There is a film in which some authoritarian regime tries to elimitate violen and mind control techniques. Most of the population dies and the rest turns who start killing everybody.

My experience is that you never convince people. The way to push change in t is to bring people into minoritary hobbies (such as target shooting or knife there is enough people in it, with stakes in it, that it becomes resistent t

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Any change in culture that is effective takes time and is done subtly. Just as many other nations have been whittling away at their citizen's rights to
own firearms, they've been doing it in such a way that people who do legally own and use firearms are viewed as being deviants.

The US has a gun culture, and instead of trying to hide it, safety and responsibility through safety courses and shooting sports are ways to reverse the stigma that guns only have one evil reason to exist.

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I don't know what it would take to eliminate the roots of violent
behavior,

Personal responsibility.

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Re: Breaking News
By: Jazzy J to Moondog on Sat Dec 11 2021 10:02:00

I don't know what it would take to eliminate the roots of violent behavior,

Personal responsibility.

Encouraging biblical morality would be a good place to start.

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Re: Breaking News
By: Sys64738 to Jazzy J on Mon Dec 13 2021 05:23 pm

Re: Breaking News
By: Jazzy J to Moondog on Sat Dec 11 2021 10:02:00

I don't know what it would take to eliminate the roots of violent behavior,

Personal responsibility.

Encouraging biblical morality would be a good place to start.

SYS64738

Sounds good, but even most of us who follow the same book do not agree what each page says.

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Re: Breaking News
By: Moondog to Sys64738 on Tue Dec 14 2021 15:56:00

Encouraging biblical morality would be a good place to start.

Sounds good, but even most of us who follow the same book do not agree what each page says.

Complete agreement is not necessary. There is a general theme of respect, kindness, and responsibility.

Besides that, any two people that totally agree on everything means that one of them is irrelevant. :)

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Re: Breaking News
By: Moondog to Sys64738 on Tue Dec 14 2021 15:56:00

Encouraging biblical morality would be a good place to start.

Sounds good, but even most of us who follow the same book do not agree what each page says.

Complete agreement is not necessary. There is a general theme of
respect, kindness, and responsibility.

Put God above all, and treat your neighbor as yourself. The rest is
just details. :-)



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Re: Re: Breaking News
By: JIMMY ANDERSON to SYS64738 on Mon Dec 20 2021 18:15:00

Complete agreement is not necessary. There is a general theme of respect, kindness, and responsibility.

Put God above all, and treat your neighbor as yourself. The rest is
just details. :-)

Sounds like a good start.
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Re: Breaking News
By: Sys64738 to Moondog on Wed Dec 15 2021 08:03:00

Complete agreement is not necessary. There is a general theme of respect, kindness, and responsibility.

But why do those have to be inspired by religion? Respect, Kindness and responsibility are all admirable traits. I don't need a fairy tale to back them up.

Eric

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Re: Breaking News
By: K7elh to Sys64738 on Thu Dec 23 2021 07:37 pm

Re: Breaking News
By: Sys64738 to Moondog on Wed Dec 15 2021 08:03:00

Complete agreement is not necessary. There is a general theme of respect kindness, and responsibility.

But why do those have to be inspired by religion? Respect, Kindness and responsibility are all admirable traits. I don't need a fairy tale to back t up.

Eric

While I agree, that comment feels like a cheap shot at moderate Abrahamic religions, heh.

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Complete agreement is not necessary. There is a general theme of respect, kindness, and responsibility.

But why do those have to be inspired by religion? Respect, Kindness
and responsibility are all admirable traits. I don't need a fairy tale
to back them up.

Don't have to be inspired by religion at all! You'd think being kind
and respectful to your fellow man would come natural, but the Truth
is that the NATURAL thing to do is Sin...




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Re: Breaking News
By: K7elh to Sys64738 on Thu Dec 23 2021 19:37:26

Complete agreement is not necessary. There is a general theme of respect, kindness, and responsibility.

But why do those have to be inspired by religion? Respect, Kindness and responsibility are all admirable traits. I don't need a fairy tale to back them up.

Calling the Bible a "fairy tale" is an awfully large assumption.
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